RECENTLY, AN IIT-JEE 25TH RANKER GAVE AN INTERVIEW TO A FAMOUS INTERNET PORTAL.HERE I LIKE TO SHARE WITH U ABOUT WHAT HE HAS SAID FOR THE FUTURE ASPIRANTS ABOUT THAT MOST COMPETITIVE EXAM IN HIS OWN WORDS.THIS WILL CLEAR THE DOUBTS PRESENT AMOUG VARIOUS ASPIRANTS.
PLEASE READ IT.VERY IMPORTANT!!
HE HAS GIVEN SOME TIPS, STRATEGIES IN TACKILING THE EXAM. ALSO SOME THINGS WHICH YOU HAVE KNOW ABOUT.
“hi i am narendra . i am presently in IIT mumbai. coming to the point
iit jee is a life time achievement probably achieved by exceptional as you think not right.
EVEN IF I REPEAT THIS A HUNDRED TIMES YOU WILL STILL SAY IT IS TOUGH CRACKING THE JEE.
REMEMBER HARD WORK, TIME MANAGEMENT, INTELLIGENT TACTICS AE NECESSARY FOR THE PEPARATION FOR THE JEE
MY FATHER IS A PRINCIPLED MAN HE IS A 10STD GOLD MEDALIST HAS DONE MTECH,BTECH FROM RIT JAMSHEDPUR IN 1981 HAS A DEGREE PGDMB(FINANCE & MKT.) FORM XLRI JAMSHEDPUR) NOW HE WORKS IN TATAMOTORS AS SENIOR GM MANAGING MANY BRANCHES.
ONE OF MY FRIENDS SAURAV BHAIYA ACHIEVED AI R 14 IN IITJEE2005 YOU ASK ANY ONE THE SUCCESS MANTRA IT IS SINCERITY,DEDICATION AND WILL POWER.
MENTAL PREPARATION ACCOUNTS FOR 50% OF THE JEE.
FIRST IS HEALTH
MY FATHER AND I WAKE EVERY DAY 4?0 CLOCK FOR JOGGING
BE A STRICT VEGETARIAN
DRINK WATER
SMILE A LOT
STUDYING IS A EASY JOB
VALUES MAKE THE DIFFERENCE
2ND.
GIVE AS MUCH IMPORTANCE TO BOARD AS TO JEE
(95%& ABOVE ) IS EXCELLENT
3RD.
JEE REQUIRES INTENSIVE LOGICAL APPROACH
ALWAYS STRIKE FROM THE BASE FUNDAMENTALS
WORK OUT ALOT OF PROBLEMS
MY FATHER AND I WAKE EVERY DAY 4?0 CLOCK FOR JOGGING
BE A STRICT VEGETARIAN
DRINK WATER
SMILE A LOT
STUDYING IS A EASY JOB
VALUES MAKE THE DIFFERENCE
2ND.
GIVE AS MUCH IMPORTANCE TO BOARD AS TO JEE
(95%& ABOVE ) IS EXCELLENT
3RD.
JEE REQUIRES INTENSIVE LOGICAL APPROACH
ALWAYS STRIKE FROM THE BASE FUNDAMENTALS
WORK OUT ALOT OF PROBLEMS
BE TIME CONSCIOUS
A SUBJECTIVE PROBEM MUST NOT TAKE MORE THAN 5-6 MINUTES
MY APPROACH IS BEST BE RELAXED DONOT TAKE TENSION ANYTIME
BUT BE SURE YOU ARE ON THE IGHT FOOT.
Purchase JEE Preparation Books:
PHYSICS:
HC VERMA,HALLIDAY,FIITJEE BRILLIANT PROBLEMS, ARIHANT (OLD EDITION),IRODOV
A SUBJECTIVE PROBEM MUST NOT TAKE MORE THAN 5-6 MINUTES
MY APPROACH IS BEST BE RELAXED DONOT TAKE TENSION ANYTIME
BUT BE SURE YOU ARE ON THE IGHT FOOT.
Purchase JEE Preparation Books:
PHYSICS:
HC VERMA,HALLIDAY,FIITJEE BRILLIANT PROBLEMS, ARIHANT (OLD EDITION),IRODOV
CHEMISTRY:
OP AGARWAL INORGANIC,
RC MUKHERJEE,
P BAHADUR FOR NUMERICAL ,
ORGANIC:
NCERT, SCHOOL ISC BOOK AIHANT MORRISON BYOD
MATHS:
ML KHANNA, DAS GUPTA ,TMH, BILLIANT, FIITJEE ,HALL & KNIGHT ,LONEY,CALCULUS MARON
DOING THESE IS ENOUGH FOR YOU TO GET IN TOP 50
WORK 11-15 HRS A DAY IF YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL
Most people think that IIT JEE is very difficult examination. However, JEE is only a different examination.
One thing certain is IIT JEE requires a very systematic preparation. Earlier you start preparing for it the better.
JEE defers from conventional board exams in one major way. Tests your fundamentals of the subject and your ability to think logically and analytically.
To begin with, you must arrange for professional guidance, if you do not have one available at home. Secondly, practice of solving JEE level problems being of paramount importance, you must have access to enough recommended books / notes.
(1.) You can get join postal / classroom coaching.
(2.) You can try and get old postal coaching material from students who have appeared for JEE recently.
(3.) Buy or have access to various reference books for the subjects. (Lists are available on the net.)
Getting yourself motivated and keeping up the tempo is not easy. Load of HSC and JEE together can be very tough. So, if you are convinced read a lot about IITs, understand why you want to be in IIT and prepare for long, systematic preparations for it. I would recommend you should start preparing for JEE, immediately after Xth, if you have not started earlier!
The IITJEE is the Joint Entrance Examination conducted by the IITs for admission in the six IITs , ITBHU and ISM Dhanbad.
The IITJEE is aimed at selecting the best candidates from the country .It is considered the most competitive examination after 12th standard. About 2.5 % of the total students, appearing, are able to get through (entry ratio is even less than that of Stanford University!).
The entrance examination consists of :
The Main Examination of three separate papers in Mathematics, Physics and Chemistry, each of two-hour duration, for those who qualify in the Screening Test. the mains in first week of april.
The general norm is that the JEE is a difficult examination and the questions are complex and tough. This is not true. It is merely a different exam. It examines your basic concepts, logical aspects and your ability to apply fundamentals to multi-conceptual problems. All it requires is a proper examination temperament and different approach to the subject than most of the other exams. Added to this, it also tests your ability to work efficiently without getting pressures in. It is also a test of your psychology. To solve the typical JEE like problems you have to think in many dimensions.
However,
The question papers of JEE are most involved as compared to any other
similar competitive examination. The process of formation of JEE papers
is pretty complex. Questions are invited from various professors from
different IITs. From this list, few questions are finalized, so the
professor himself doesn’t know whether his question is there or not. All
the possible solutions of questions are also made. The result of mains
exam is declared in about 20 days from the day of examination.
To have optimum success in entrance & avoid failing one has to develop excellent examination temperament besides knowledge of the subject and problem solving skills.
What is needed for the IIT-JEE is :
An analytical mind and planned strategic approach.
Students with high IQ level can extract the information from the teacher even in a large group, plethora of books and study material available. Other students get confused due to flood of information and study material. One needs to have a definite plan with well defined helps and sources of information to produce optimum results. Students normally neglect Chemistry which is most scoring and do not pursue Physics in a proper way. Preparing Physics for the JEE needs more attention besides acquiring highly polished analytical skills. To help you with these things see all the topics of this site and I assure you that if they are probably followed , they will bring a big difference in your rank and hence life and career.
Hard work is indispensable for JEE:
If you are intelligent that’s good but intelligence alone is NOT going to get you in IIT or in AIEEE or in BITSAT. I have seen many people who are very intelligent and because of their intelligence they overestimate themselves and study less and end up getting a low rank in JEE. But I am not saying that any hard working person can make it to IIT. You need a certain degree of caliber but need not be a genius.
The second most important requirement is guidance. Hard work is bow, intelligence is arrow and guidance gives you the direction of target. Then only your arrow will hit JEE’s target.
Third thing is motivation. Nobody can force you to study for IIT. For working so hard for IIT you need a lot of motivation. Most (almost all) of the top rankers study for the whole two years single heartedly for JEE. For these 2 years they leave all their comforts for JEE. Like Arjun, you must only see JEE (the eye of bird) and nothing else
The fourth thing is Temperament. Temperament plays a vital role for success at IIT-JEE. Nervousness can decrease performance to such an effect that a student getting expected to get a top rank in JEE, fails to even qualify. Solving full papers, preferably in exam atmosphere can improve your temperament. Test series offered by some classes could be of help. If you do not have access to such series, try solving old papers with alarm set and correct it from solutions available.”
Interview With Another IITian
“Today compitation is very hard“–I have heared people saying so. Are they true . I don`t think so. when i thik honestly over it i found that really today comptation is not tough, but really the no. of compitants are big , that is other thing weather they are able 4 it or not.
Friends! Today i want to share myself after all of u. when i was a school going student of class 11th. and very true i also want to crack IIT. Really this is not my aim of life but it is one of the stoping station of my journey, the stopze of my journey will be with when i will be the richest man of the world.
We use to waste our precious time and energy over thinking that how to prepare 4 IIT and what should be the right stategy 4 it. This is really not the rule . What be the rule we have to be dedicated on it. But u may change in ur statgy as ur experience inreases. So just go and make a routine 4 study and be dedicated to it.
We go on a very simple thinking that ` `today the condition is not in my favour, i wail do that very thing tomorrow“. tomorrow goes on tomorrow and tomorrow and so on so on ……….! And one day we have to face our exams and we get dippressed, is not it? Well. We creat problems 4 ours. MOST OF THE PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO GET SUCCESS BUT THEY DON`T WANT TO WORK OR SPANT THEIR TIME. EDUCATION MEANS–THE PROGRAMME IN WHICH WE WASTE 1/4TH OF OUR LIFE TO KNOW THAT HOW TO WASTE OUR 3/4TH LIFE.
As hard as u work luck favours u so much. remember everyone have only 12 hrs to work , but in this 12 hrs one is BILL GATES and one is working under him.
Well i would like to tell everybody one thing that is extremely important to know while preparing for the IITs, and that is, if u think u r extremely good at school then it does not necessarily mean you are intelligent or brainy and end up having high hopes that u can get into any one of the IITs.
The reason is very simple, at school u don?t need brains to do well in your exams, u need lots of memory and hours of hardcore mugging! But at a place like IIT – JEE, its insane to even think u can mug, because the syllabus is designed for people who can think!
I have seen people who have scored around 65% – 70% in their boards, but end up with very good IIT – JEE ranks at the end. So now I hope u can differentiate between true intelligence and true ?mug – pots?
According to me no bloody school exam can ever judge the true intelligence of a student, but at IIT it shows it all! At school all of us mug our heads off and the better the mugging the more intelligent we all seem to the teacher?s and parent?s eyes!
True intelligence can be found and discovered only at the IIT – JEE, so why not prove yourself there, rather than waste time mugging and falling under the illusion that u r intelligent, genius etc:- after seeing your class scores!
So the bottom line of the above text is.. Stop putting IIT – JEE and your ?performance in school? in the same side of the coin, ?cos if u do.. you would be committing the biggest blunder of your life.
IIT is always a word which rises a energy through the body. But to achieve it you have to drain out the entire energy out of your body. Preparing for IIT is not a week or month job. It needs years of effort.From 11th onwards the whole ?energy? has to be squezed out.
A proper oranization is always the primary task for all preparation.
1.) Make yourself a week plan and a month plan before you work.
Never put down all your awake time in studies. Effiecency is the primary target. Divide the day into 4 – 6 sections of 2-3 hours. For every successful period take a 15-30 minutes reward. It boosts your energy.
2.) Regular exercise is always a must. allocate about 30 minutes of the day for this.
You can choose ?exercise time? during the time you feel sleepy or fed-up.
3.) Do a subject continously for a long period. Each time you change the subject you lose a lot of time. (transition time is a lot on thinking) .
4.) Crash your leisure programmes when you don?t go on plan then make a better plan for next week
5.) Write in black n white the portions covered and try to match it with the plan.
6.) A sleep of 5.5 hr is a must!!!!
7.) During the ?Hike? of tension cool youself by meditating or by jst running arround!!
Studying Methods
1.) Regularly solve model papers and keep checking the time. This enhance confidence and shows the pons and cons of ur studies.
2.) Be up to date. All HW must be done in time.
3.) make yourself comprehensive notes and small skecthes. (make them attractive)
4.) Be perfect in solving maths problems. Never make a situation that will make u revise back through it. The best way I adopted was from my teacher. ??Enjoy Maths!!?? and do it when you are totally freacked out. On doing problems during ?freaking? time you intially tend to make mistakes. But this soon will be a boon when you get freaked out during exams. You will be ready to move through even when u r freaked. ( this was my success key for 100 in maths exams.)
5.) Be prepared with all type of questions.
6.) Go through guides daily. In the last moment u won?t be able to do it.
ANOTHER IITian’s view:
Here goes one more article for SUCCESSFULL PREPARATION FOR IIT JEE . If you are sure the way you are preparing is quite OK for you. DONT READ BEYOND THIS.
But if you think you need guidence just read this and ponder over it for a while and then set into action right away!
Let me 1st tell you something abt myself. I was preparing for IIT JEE 2006 for the pst one and a half year. And during this period i?ve oserved that the only thing required for a meaningful preparation is to have a BURNING DESIRE to excell. This is fortunately the only requirement or eligiblity, what ever you call it. And belive me this is not easy. In todays world there are so many other IMPORTANT things, like Surfing, Dating, Music, Movies, Food…. Hai na? Keep your Eyes SHUT for them. Wear blinkers to the outside world if required. Guests who are well wisher of yours, would never expect you to come and socialise with them when ever they visit your place. I Hate GUESTS. We are taught, ?ATITHI DEVO BHAWAH? But I would rather feel the world better without them.
Good Planning is a great virtue. From This Date, only 8 months are left. Leave 2months for REVISION AND SELF ASSESSMENT TESTs. So you have at the most 6 months for preparation. If you havent started yet, This is high time 4 you to do so. Don?t worry. Belive in yourself. Daily study for 12 hrs ( Sincerly ) and you get through it. Concentrate only on the Basics. Though I strongly belive to study from books according to my power of perception and understanding, at least from my average level of brain, I can suggest you the following books if you share the same understandning power.
Maths : Asit Das gupta prasad for IIT, ML Khanna
Physics : H.C verma ( Vol I and II ) is enough. If not you can add 3000 solved problems in physics ( Mcgraw Hill Publication )
Chemistry : G.D. Mishra, P Bhadur or R.C. mukharjee.
The Only Thing I say abt. books is decide once and stick to it unless you are thru it throughly. Never flicker amoung books you will ruin you time that way.
Don’t pray to god to get you thru the gateway of IIT, pray only to help you to keep the desire to excell burning withn you , pray not to let your mind deviate from the path you’ve once decided. Rest your hard work will make you achieve your cherished ambition and you be prevaileged to be called with those wonderfull words i.e. IITian.
I wanted to write more but since the time does’t permitts. So off i go. One thing i would like to add is Internet the BEST source to kill time so go wath out the time you spend over it.
People who are really intrested for a chat or talk over the topic of preparing for IIT JEE can mail me at "rahul5mishra@yahoo.com" or call me (0657) 2303851, 2142117.
So with all your honest and determination rush to your study table YOUR TIME STARTS NOW !!! “
Last Sec Tips:
1.) Never start studying during the last month.
2.) keep covering pages at a fast pace
3.) Question yourself where you feel you are doubtful.
4.) Never leave calculations. Keep doing always. Once you stop your marks stops!!
5.) Have confidence
Always be cool and smooth. Never let tension eat you u up. Aske the parents to keep an eye on yu always. Otherwise you may not be studying always.
Be motivated, encouraged and struggle.
It is afterall not a miserable fight.
To have optimum success in entrance & avoid failing one has to develop excellent examination temperament besides knowledge of the subject and problem solving skills.
What is needed for the IIT-JEE is :
An analytical mind and planned strategic approach.
Students with high IQ level can extract the information from the teacher even in a large group, plethora of books and study material available. Other students get confused due to flood of information and study material. One needs to have a definite plan with well defined helps and sources of information to produce optimum results. Students normally neglect Chemistry which is most scoring and do not pursue Physics in a proper way. Preparing Physics for the JEE needs more attention besides acquiring highly polished analytical skills. To help you with these things see all the topics of this site and I assure you that if they are probably followed , they will bring a big difference in your rank and hence life and career.
Hard work is indispensable for JEE:
If you are intelligent that’s good but intelligence alone is NOT going to get you in IIT or in AIEEE or in BITSAT. I have seen many people who are very intelligent and because of their intelligence they overestimate themselves and study less and end up getting a low rank in JEE. But I am not saying that any hard working person can make it to IIT. You need a certain degree of caliber but need not be a genius.
The second most important requirement is guidance. Hard work is bow, intelligence is arrow and guidance gives you the direction of target. Then only your arrow will hit JEE’s target.
Third thing is motivation. Nobody can force you to study for IIT. For working so hard for IIT you need a lot of motivation. Most (almost all) of the top rankers study for the whole two years single heartedly for JEE. For these 2 years they leave all their comforts for JEE. Like Arjun, you must only see JEE (the eye of bird) and nothing else
The fourth thing is Temperament. Temperament plays a vital role for success at IIT-JEE. Nervousness can decrease performance to such an effect that a student getting expected to get a top rank in JEE, fails to even qualify. Solving full papers, preferably in exam atmosphere can improve your temperament. Test series offered by some classes could be of help. If you do not have access to such series, try solving old papers with alarm set and correct it from solutions available.”
Interview With Another IITian
“Today compitation is very hard“–I have heared people saying so. Are they true . I don`t think so. when i thik honestly over it i found that really today comptation is not tough, but really the no. of compitants are big , that is other thing weather they are able 4 it or not.
Friends! Today i want to share myself after all of u. when i was a school going student of class 11th. and very true i also want to crack IIT. Really this is not my aim of life but it is one of the stoping station of my journey, the stopze of my journey will be with when i will be the richest man of the world.
We use to waste our precious time and energy over thinking that how to prepare 4 IIT and what should be the right stategy 4 it. This is really not the rule . What be the rule we have to be dedicated on it. But u may change in ur statgy as ur experience inreases. So just go and make a routine 4 study and be dedicated to it.
We go on a very simple thinking that ` `today the condition is not in my favour, i wail do that very thing tomorrow“. tomorrow goes on tomorrow and tomorrow and so on so on ……….! And one day we have to face our exams and we get dippressed, is not it? Well. We creat problems 4 ours. MOST OF THE PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO GET SUCCESS BUT THEY DON`T WANT TO WORK OR SPANT THEIR TIME. EDUCATION MEANS–THE PROGRAMME IN WHICH WE WASTE 1/4TH OF OUR LIFE TO KNOW THAT HOW TO WASTE OUR 3/4TH LIFE.
As hard as u work luck favours u so much. remember everyone have only 12 hrs to work , but in this 12 hrs one is BILL GATES and one is working under him.
Well i would like to tell everybody one thing that is extremely important to know while preparing for the IITs, and that is, if u think u r extremely good at school then it does not necessarily mean you are intelligent or brainy and end up having high hopes that u can get into any one of the IITs.
The reason is very simple, at school u don?t need brains to do well in your exams, u need lots of memory and hours of hardcore mugging! But at a place like IIT – JEE, its insane to even think u can mug, because the syllabus is designed for people who can think!
I have seen people who have scored around 65% – 70% in their boards, but end up with very good IIT – JEE ranks at the end. So now I hope u can differentiate between true intelligence and true ?mug – pots?
According to me no bloody school exam can ever judge the true intelligence of a student, but at IIT it shows it all! At school all of us mug our heads off and the better the mugging the more intelligent we all seem to the teacher?s and parent?s eyes!
True intelligence can be found and discovered only at the IIT – JEE, so why not prove yourself there, rather than waste time mugging and falling under the illusion that u r intelligent, genius etc:- after seeing your class scores!
So the bottom line of the above text is.. Stop putting IIT – JEE and your ?performance in school? in the same side of the coin, ?cos if u do.. you would be committing the biggest blunder of your life.
IIT is always a word which rises a energy through the body. But to achieve it you have to drain out the entire energy out of your body. Preparing for IIT is not a week or month job. It needs years of effort.From 11th onwards the whole ?energy? has to be squezed out.
A proper oranization is always the primary task for all preparation.
1.) Make yourself a week plan and a month plan before you work.
Never put down all your awake time in studies. Effiecency is the primary target. Divide the day into 4 – 6 sections of 2-3 hours. For every successful period take a 15-30 minutes reward. It boosts your energy.
2.) Regular exercise is always a must. allocate about 30 minutes of the day for this.
You can choose ?exercise time? during the time you feel sleepy or fed-up.
3.) Do a subject continously for a long period. Each time you change the subject you lose a lot of time. (transition time is a lot on thinking) .
4.) Crash your leisure programmes when you don?t go on plan then make a better plan for next week
5.) Write in black n white the portions covered and try to match it with the plan.
6.) A sleep of 5.5 hr is a must!!!!
7.) During the ?Hike? of tension cool youself by meditating or by jst running arround!!
Studying Methods
1.) Regularly solve model papers and keep checking the time. This enhance confidence and shows the pons and cons of ur studies.
2.) Be up to date. All HW must be done in time.
3.) make yourself comprehensive notes and small skecthes. (make them attractive)
4.) Be perfect in solving maths problems. Never make a situation that will make u revise back through it. The best way I adopted was from my teacher. ??Enjoy Maths!!?? and do it when you are totally freacked out. On doing problems during ?freaking? time you intially tend to make mistakes. But this soon will be a boon when you get freaked out during exams. You will be ready to move through even when u r freaked. ( this was my success key for 100 in maths exams.)
5.) Be prepared with all type of questions.
6.) Go through guides daily. In the last moment u won?t be able to do it.
ANOTHER IITian’s view:
Here goes one more article for SUCCESSFULL PREPARATION FOR IIT JEE . If you are sure the way you are preparing is quite OK for you. DONT READ BEYOND THIS.
But if you think you need guidence just read this and ponder over it for a while and then set into action right away!
Let me 1st tell you something abt myself. I was preparing for IIT JEE 2006 for the pst one and a half year. And during this period i?ve oserved that the only thing required for a meaningful preparation is to have a BURNING DESIRE to excell. This is fortunately the only requirement or eligiblity, what ever you call it. And belive me this is not easy. In todays world there are so many other IMPORTANT things, like Surfing, Dating, Music, Movies, Food…. Hai na? Keep your Eyes SHUT for them. Wear blinkers to the outside world if required. Guests who are well wisher of yours, would never expect you to come and socialise with them when ever they visit your place. I Hate GUESTS. We are taught, ?ATITHI DEVO BHAWAH? But I would rather feel the world better without them.
Good Planning is a great virtue. From This Date, only 8 months are left. Leave 2months for REVISION AND SELF ASSESSMENT TESTs. So you have at the most 6 months for preparation. If you havent started yet, This is high time 4 you to do so. Don?t worry. Belive in yourself. Daily study for 12 hrs ( Sincerly ) and you get through it. Concentrate only on the Basics. Though I strongly belive to study from books according to my power of perception and understanding, at least from my average level of brain, I can suggest you the following books if you share the same understandning power.
Maths : Asit Das gupta prasad for IIT, ML Khanna
Physics : H.C verma ( Vol I and II ) is enough. If not you can add 3000 solved problems in physics ( Mcgraw Hill Publication )
Chemistry : G.D. Mishra, P Bhadur or R.C. mukharjee.
The Only Thing I say abt. books is decide once and stick to it unless you are thru it throughly. Never flicker amoung books you will ruin you time that way.
Don’t pray to god to get you thru the gateway of IIT, pray only to help you to keep the desire to excell burning withn you , pray not to let your mind deviate from the path you’ve once decided. Rest your hard work will make you achieve your cherished ambition and you be prevaileged to be called with those wonderfull words i.e. IITian.
I wanted to write more but since the time does’t permitts. So off i go. One thing i would like to add is Internet the BEST source to kill time so go wath out the time you spend over it.
People who are really intrested for a chat or talk over the topic of preparing for IIT JEE can mail me at "rahul5mishra@yahoo.com" or call me (0657) 2303851, 2142117.
So with all your honest and determination rush to your study table YOUR TIME STARTS NOW !!! “
Last Sec Tips:
1.) Never start studying during the last month.
2.) keep covering pages at a fast pace
3.) Question yourself where you feel you are doubtful.
4.) Never leave calculations. Keep doing always. Once you stop your marks stops!!
5.) Have confidence
Always be cool and smooth. Never let tension eat you u up. Aske the parents to keep an eye on yu always. Otherwise you may not be studying always.
Be motivated, encouraged and struggle.
It is afterall not a miserable fight.
I